Three Jacks?

[willowrose]

Hi all
I'm just wondering.....What would have happened if they hadn't found Jack's body parts scattered within the debris of the hub.
Would there have been no jack? Or three Jacks? Oooooooh, the mind boggles. :inlove:

[nightowl]

I explored that in a fic actually, because I wondered the same thing. How many Jacks and how much of him is necessary for a whole Jack to regenerate?

:wink:

[gallifrey_gal]

I wondered that after seeing ep 2. I reckon that you need a few body parts to create another whole Jack, but the head is prob essential!!

But I like the idea that there could be another couple of Jacks on the loose... :happy:

[TheLizardQueen]

ooh... three jacks... three naked jacks maybe? Ooh... the possibilities.... oops, my mind is too young and innocent! AGH! :lol2:

[gallifrey_gal]

three naked Jacks.... the mind boggles.... oh the possibilities! ............. :grin:

[bassett tw addict]

wow thats sounds good three jacks now i would love to c that

[blaid drwg]

I love elaine's fic, but I belive in the (HA!) cannon world that he probably regrows from the head.

[TheLizardQueen]

haha totally... you know i should REALLY stop thinking about naked jacks and concentrate on my geography hmwk... but i just don't see the point in tourism as much as i do naked jacks!

[nightowl]

Three Jacks - sounds like we're playing poker. Wow, now there's a concept - TW playing cards with naked Jacks. He'd love that!

Ah Mel, you are too kind! :blusher:

[bassett tw addict]

Three Jacks - sounds like we're playing poker. Wow, now there's a concept - TW playing cards with naked Jacks. He'd love that!

Ah Mel, you are too kind! :blusher:
sweet that sounds fun
love it :grin:

[adskinner]

You could have one for Ianto, one for Gwen, just in case things with Rhys never worked out and the third one for...well, I'm sure he could come in handy for something. Maybe if Ianto needs help cheating when playing naked hide and seek with his Jack.

[jezjeff]

You could have one for Ianto, one for Gwen, just in case things with Rhys never worked out and the third one for...well, I'm sure he could come in handy for something. Maybe if Ianto needs help cheating when playing naked hide and seek with his Jack.

i read a fic about the Torchwood team finding a part of The Infinite (DW animated ep) and Jack sees himself and Gwen finds him kissing himself.

I guess that would probably happen... well maybe not kissing since only one head but my mind wonder lol :grin:

JJ
xx

[Chelle]

On the TV just now they are taking about scattered remains, and its quite fitting for the topic! :laugh2:

Its quite creepy but totally fascinating about Jack regrowing.

xxx

[peanutbutter]

I would love lots of naked Jacks, but I think RTD said something about all the molecules of Jack's body moving towards the centre (brain?), so even after being chopped up, there can be only one Jack.

[ganamor13]

Think about it. They didn't find a complete skull.

[Kaleidoscope]

If he regenerates from the brain, what happens if the brain got a bit scattered too? Hmmm...

I like the idea of several naked Jacks... :swoon:

[TheLizardQueen]

eww splattered brain... lets not even think about that, lets carry on thinking about naked jacks... thats better lol :grin:

[jezjeff]

I'm with ay hun. Naked Jack could take a while to get it out of my brian ;D

JJ
xx

[bassett tw addict]

me 2 :happy:

[Rootesie]

three naked Jacks.... the mind boggles.... oh the possibilities! ............. :grin:

I don't reckon anyone else would get a look in, the man is so narcissistic. Still, nice image. May have to think about that for a while... :blusher:

[TheLizardQueen]

It's always good to think about naked Jack, reguardless of the quantities :tongue:

[Kelspook]

I wondered that after seeing ep 2. I reckon that you need a few body parts to create another whole Jack, but the head is prob essential!!

But I like the idea that there could be another couple of Jacks on the loose... :happy:

The head essential? I don't think so.. I know this thread wandered happily off onto the topics of multiple naked Jacks, lol, but I read this topic a few days ago, it bugged me, and been thinking about it since. I reckon I have a workable theory- if you disagree, cool, just tell us why! :)


We know that Rose brought Jack back the first time. Thing is though, it wasn't Rose as such. She had the time vortex inhabiting her, and she instructed the vortex to bring him back. I know it's been said that Jack is now a fixed point in time and space... but I think that's scientifically inaccurate. A fixed point in time, yep. Space, nope, because if he was, every time he resurrected he'd find himself back in the location of the game station as that's where he was when he died. The reason he's a fixed point is because although Rose told the vortex to bring him back to life, she didn't tell it to stop doing it, so Jack keeps being reset to his personal point in time just prior to the dalek exterminating him, regardless of the time period he's currently residing in.

So my theory is that the vortex made him a fixed point in time, and by that it meant that the vortex simply "rewinds" him to his previous state every time he dies. As you can travel through space and time using the vortex, it would follow that it simply draws all the pieces back either physically if they're available or through time itself prior to the tissue's destruction.

Logically the vortex would start doing that from the highest concentration of parts- I don't think it would matter which parts at all. Like the biggest pieces act similar to the singularity at the centre of a black hole- the singularity has the highest density and gravitational field, so drags everything in the vicinity towards itself. The vortex isn't going to expend energy uselessly, so would start from the easiest point i.e. where there's more of him!

So that would preclude the possibility of many Jacks- the vortex is simply rewinding the original through time to a point before he got blown to bits!

This actually hatches a new interesting possibility- if Jack was to stop getting himself killed, would he age naturally? At least until he died of old age, then got reset again? Fic idea there for someone I think lol.

So, what do you lot think? Valid or nonsense?

[Rootesie]

Intriguing idea. So do you think he really does end up as the Face of Bo, by not getting himself killed? But what about him telling the Doctor that he was getting some grey hairs? How are these carried over to his new life?

Or was that just a get out clause to explain why JB looks a bit older than he did when we first saw him as Jack? :wink:

[nightowl]

Terri - you make a very valid point. The space should be a misnomer, since he would then return to a vacuum every time, or worse, back at Gamestation every time he died and revived, going to that particular time and place.


I guess the question is how long would it take for an atomized Jack to reform, and if he were to start from a critical mass, would the vortex duplicate efforts or once it got one critical mass would it build from there? Hmmmmm.


So many questions, so many ways we could test this theory..... oh Jack......! :grin:

[Kelspook]

Intriguing idea. So do you think he really does end up as the Face of Bo, by not getting himself killed?

Well, nobody has ever actually said catagorically the Jack of the far future is the Face of Bo- I personally think that's just RTD messing with our heads to provoke discussions just like this one, good for him! :D I think i's far more likely that the people on the Boshane peninsula had heard of the Face of Bo, and the use of it with Jack was just a nickname. But I don't think that's the case, anyway, because the reset and rewind nature of what the vortex has done to him should always take him back to that gamestation baseline.... Then again, maybe there is another vortex incident in the future that we don't know about yet, and it makes him start evolving into something weird!


But what about him telling the Doctor that he was getting some grey hairs? How are these carried over to his new life?Or was that just a get out clause to explain why JB looks a bit older than he did when we first saw him as Jack? :wink:

Hehe, just like Angel the immortal vampire wasn't supposed to age, but of course David Boreanaz did as the series went on- I think that's one of those things we're just meant to ignore- it's only tv after all, lol. Willing suspension of disbelief and all that :grin:

Was it the Doctor that he said that to? I'll bow to superior knowledge, as I haven't seen all the episodes of Doctor Who yet, but the only time I can recall Jack talking about grey hairs was to Alice during CoE. That at the time struck me as a jokey throwaway comment, simply meant to make Alice feel a bit better about the fact that she now looks the same age as her dad. So he was talking rubbish... lol.



I guess the question is how long would it take for an atomized Jack to reform, and if he were to start from a critical mass, would the vortex duplicate efforts or once it got one critical mass would it build from there? Hmmmmm.

First off, it would be pretty unlikely that every single atom would be seperated with every other single atom... the odds against at least a few staying clumped together must be astronomical! But, in theory, that could happen, if the weapon used was specifically design to fracture all the atomic bonds. If it did, the logical place for the vortex to start work would be at the centre of the scatter pattern, start drawing atoms in from the middle and gradually rebuild him. I guess the vortex has a blueprint in it's "memory" somewhere, and it just follows the plans every time.



So many questions, so many ways we could test this theory..... oh Jack......! :grin:

Right there with you! I'd love to see just how much destruction he can survive! We're gonna need supplies though. :grin:

Have to say I'm enjoying this topic to a huge degree- i love the science stuff!

[Rootesie]

Was it the Doctor that he said that to? I'll bow to superior knowledge, as I haven't seen all the episodes of Doctor Who yet, but the only time I can recall Jack talking about grey hairs was to Alice during CoE. That at the time struck me as a jokey throwaway comment, simply meant to make Alice feel a bit better about the fact that she now looks the same age as her dad. So he was talking rubbish... lol.

I'm pretty sure that this was at the end of the last episode in the Martha Jones series, when the three of them are talking on Milllenium Square, just before Jack returns to the Hub. Can't remember the episode name!

Jack did sound fairly serious about it at the time, in my view anyway. Seemed he was looking for reassurance that he wasn't going to age too quickly.

[gallifrey_gal]

There's some valid points there- to be honest I hadn't really thought a lot about it- not so good with the sciency stuff! I think it makes sense.

I reckon he does age, I'd like to think he turns into the Face of Boe, (the DW ep title is 'The Last of the Time Lords' I think) but who knows, like you said, it could just be RTD messing with us!

[nightowl]

First off, it would be pretty unlikely that every single atom would be seperated with every other single atom... the odds against at least a few staying clumped together must be astronomical! But, in theory, that could happen, if the weapon used was specifically design to fracture all the atomic bonds. If it did, the logical place for the vortex to start work would be at the centre of the scatter pattern, start drawing atoms in from the middle and gradually rebuild him. I guess the vortex has a blueprint in it's "memory" somewhere, and it just follows the plans every time.

So what you're really saying is that the vortex will gather bits and pieces of Jack, kind of like a mini big bang theory and group them in the center until it has enough critical mass to reform him. Of course that would really be nasty, since he'd be constantly dying and reviving in the vacuum of space.

Ouch! Poor Jack! :grin:

[Kelspook]

First off, it would be pretty unlikely that every single atom would be seperated with every other single atom... the odds against at least a few staying clumped together must be astronomical! But, in theory, that could happen, if the weapon used was specifically design to fracture all the atomic bonds. If it did, the logical place for the vortex to start work would be at the centre of the scatter pattern, start drawing atoms in from the middle and gradually rebuild him. I guess the vortex has a blueprint in it's "memory" somewhere, and it just follows the plans every time.

So what you're really saying is that the vortex will gather bits and pieces of Jack, kind of like a mini big bang theory and group them in the center until it has enough critical mass to reform him. Of course that would really be nasty, since he'd be constantly dying and reviving in the vacuum of space.

Ouch! Poor Jack! :grin:

Yeah, you got it, though it'd be more of a reverse big bang...

And yep, that would indeed not be a fun day out for Jack, though I'm sure he'd get picked up by a passing ship eventually... poor sod in the interim though!

[gisyl]

nightowl wrote:
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First off, it would be pretty unlikely that every single atom would be seperated with every other single atom... the odds against at least a few staying clumped together must be astronomical! But, in theory, that could happen, if the weapon used was specifically design to fracture all the atomic bonds. If it did, the logical place for the vortex to start work would be at the centre of the scatter pattern, start drawing atoms in from the middle and gradually rebuild him. I guess the vortex has a blueprint in it's "memory" somewhere, and it just follows the plans every time.


So what you're really saying is that the vortex will gather bits and pieces of Jack, kind of like a mini big bang theory and group them in the center until it has enough critical mass to reform him. Of course that would really be nasty, since he'd be constantly dying and reviving in the vacuum of space.

Ouch! Poor Jack! :grin:


Yeah, you got it, though it'd be more of a reverse big bang...

And yep, that would indeed not be a fun day out for Jack, though I'm sure he'd get picked up by a passing ship eventually... poor sod in the interim though!

Well,as I recall he does called it once like being hauled over broken glass,so yeah painfull.

Great theorie,by the way!

[TheLizardQueen]

...
*is still pondering naked jacks*

[chironsgirl]

Dear Mel it's nice to see someone so young yet with excellent taste in naked people. I can remember being absolutely gobsmacked that they had found an actress who could go along with a story line which involved pouring cement all over a naked Jack. A naked Jack who was chained to a bed. Oh dear, now I'm going to breathe funny for a while.
I myself can think of any number of things to do with a naked,chained to a bed Jack that have NOTHING to do with cement. These things cannot be printed in this site where people your age can read them. Get back to me in a couple of years......
All this talk about three Jacks and atoms and vortexes ...... look, people, can we just think happily about naked Jacks?
XOXOXO

[Rootesie]

Dear Mel it's nice to see someone so young yet with excellent taste in naked people. I can remember being absolutely gobsmacked that they had found an actress who could go along with a story line which involved pouring cement all over a naked Jack. A naked Jack who was chained to a bed. Oh dear, now I'm going to breathe funny for a while.
I myself can think of any number of things to do with a naked,chained to a bed Jack that have NOTHING to do with cement. These things cannot be printed in this site where people your age can read them. Get back to me in a couple of years......
All this talk about three Jacks and atoms and vortexes ...... look, people, can we just think happily about naked Jacks?
XOXOXO

We could do, but I feel strangely disappointed with that scene, now that I know they used a body double for the back shots *sighs*

Actually, you're talking about the chained to the bed scene. Yeah, that must have been JB!

[Caterpillargirl]

Actually, you're talking about the chained to the bed scene. Yeah, that must have been JB!

Mmmmm Chained to the bed Jack.... :happy: that was very nice!

[Kelspook]

All this talk about three Jacks and atoms and vortexes ...... look, people, can we just think happily about naked Jacks?
XOXOXO

Who says I wasn't happily appreciating naked Jack?? LOL.

No law says i can't think about atoms and vortexes as well, but sorry I bored you :grin:

[Yema]

Okay, so three Jack's would be awesome.

I reckon if nothing was left but a piece of skin he could even grow out of that, however the biggest part of him which remains is what he will grow out of. But yes, I'll take three Jacks please.

[chironsgirl]

Oh, Kelspook, I wasn't bored! I am just a bear with very little brain, that's all. I cant make a lot of sense out of your train of thought because I just dont have the education to grok it. I pretty much failed Gr. 10 math, and after that my parents pretty much through in the towel. I've got a BA in theatre and a BA in classical studies. Anything to do with physics or applied engineering is firmly my brother's neck of the woods. My brother would know exactly what you were talking about. He has lots of brains!
XOXOXO

[TheLizardQueen]

Don't worry, chironsgirl, i'm not too young, i mean, i'm 16 in just too weeks! lol.
And anyway, it's hard not to think about naked jacks running around for our entertainment. Who says we should stop at three? :grin:

[strat_53711]

I'd guess something within the body does the regen: brain, heart, soul. So only one Jack.

[chironsgirl]

I'd guess something within the body does the regen: brain, heart, soul. So only one Jack.
Then he is a very busy naked Jack indeed.
XOXOXO :grin:

[TheLizardQueen]

I was wondering - would it be illegal for us to capture Nacked Jack and lock him in a room and force him to repeat funny quips/quotes from the series??? Or is that border-line kidnap? :grin:

[honey]

3 naked jacks rouning around cardiff :woot: :woot: ,please dont do that to me ill be in a puddle of goo in a moment just thinking about it. :inlove:

[chironsgirl]

I was wondering - would it be illegal for us to capture Nacked Jack and lock him in a room and force him to repeat funny quips/quotes from the series??? Or is that border-line kidnap? :grin:
No sweety, I think that's just healthy intellectual curiosity. It's nice to try and learn the good lines from a show, especially from a cast member who is so famous for his live performance talents. And I'm sure there eabout 3 or 4 people who will believe that's why we want him. For about five minutes. And then someone will notice our eyes have glazed over.....

[honey]

I was wondering - would it be illegal for us to capture Nacked Jack and lock him in a room and force him to repeat funny quips/quotes from the series??? Or is that border-line kidnap? :grin:
No sweety, I think that's just healthy intellectual curiosity. It's nice to try and learn the good lines from a show, especially from a cast member who is so famous for his live performance talents. And I'm sure there eabout 3 or 4 people who will believe that's why we want him. For about five minutes. And then someone will notice our eyes have glazed over.....
or you could say its for a sience project,

[laura03232]

Okay, so three Jack's would be awesome.

I reckon if nothing was left but a piece of skin he could even grow out of that, however the biggest part of him which remains is what he will grow out of. But yes, I'll take three Jacks please.


The biggest part of him?

Take three guesses at what I immediatly thought after reading that. *shakes fist at dirty mind*

[Yema]

Haha, yeah that's pretty bad!

[chironsgirl]

Oh, we could do a science project on what the biggest piece is!!! Yippeeee! Who gets to use the measuring tape? Volunteers?
XOXOXO :yikes2:

[TheLizardQueen]

*hand flies into the air* I'll do it!

[Rootesie]

Oh, we could do a science project on what the biggest piece is!!! Yippeeee! Who gets to use the measuring tape? Volunteers?
XOXOXO :yikes2:

I'll volunteer, but only if it's an intact Jack. I'm not measuring the exploded version!

[TheLizardQueen]

haha, thats a point lol

[honey]

ive got to Volunteer for this :beg: :woot:

[chironsgirl]

ive got to Volunteer for this :beg: :woot:
Welcome to the forum ! As you can see, most of us are very SPECIFICALLY warped. I am only too happy to put you on the list of measuring an INTACT Jack. It will be a long measuring tape. We will need lots of hands to, um, ensure accuracy . Very important in scientific endeavors. And this would all be for science, right? :grin:
XOXOXO
Oh, I'm so irredeemably besotted!

[TheLizardQueen]

If we're needing lots of hands, then we can all join. Fun for all!

[Rootesie]

Just a thought: if Jack is an alternate form of the name John, and if Ianto is the pet form of the name Ifan which is the Welsh form of John, then surely three Jacks (or perhaps, more correctly, three Johns) would be the two Captains and Ianto? And three naked Jacks? Well, there are plenty of fics out there dealing with that scenario! :wink:

[chironsgirl]

Anna, you are always thinking up new ways to get us excited and interested. In measuring tapes. For science. Will we need three measuring tapes? Maybe we should get some stop watches too. That way, everyone can have a turn! Um,writing down important measured numbers. Holding the clipboards.....mustn't keep the clipboards to ourselves.....
XOXOXO

[honey]

Just a thought: if Jack is an alternate form of the name John, and if Ianto is the pet form of the name Ifan which is the Welsh form of John, then surely three Jacks (or perhaps, more correctly, three Johns) would be the two Captains and Ianto? And three naked Jacks? Well, there are plenty of fics out there dealing with that scenario! :wink:
now youve got my mind working over time 3 jacks and 3 Ianto running around Cardiff naked :woot: :woot: ,look out Cardiff im moving in lol

[TheLizardQueen]

Well all i can say is that you can never have enough naked jacks and possibly iantos...

Btw, i used to be XxsMelxX... so don't forget me! :happy:

[Rootesie]

Did I make it clear that I was thinking of Captain Jack, Captain John Hart and Ianto? I'm not sure if I did, as I think the idea was making me all distracted and dreamy...

[honey]

now you got going again :woot: :woot:

[Sqyd]

That would be three Johns then, not Jacks. Do customers of working girls called 'Johns' in the UK too, or only in the US?

:acute:

[Rootesie]

That would be three Johns then, not Jacks. Do customers of working girls called 'Johns' in the UK too, or only in the US?

That's more of a US term, although it's quite widely known over here. We tend to use the term punters. We sometimes use the term John just to mean bloke, or there is the old John Thomas :laugh:

[Sqyd]

That would be Jhonson here.

How about 'trick' for punter?

[chironsgirl]

So, let me get this straight; we can have Jack, John AND Ianto naked? All at the same time?Well, that's a crowd pleasing idea!
While I myself am a dye hard Naked Jack fan, :blusher: I think it only fair that the John and Ianto fans should have their bit of fun, too. BTW, there will be no room for punters at this party. We may have to bring a few poodles though. For John.
XOXOXO

[TheLizardQueen]

We've come a long way from three fully clothed Jacks...

[chironsgirl]

We've come a long way from three fully clothed Jacks...
:yahoo1: :lol2: :dance123: :inlove:

[Sqyd]

There is something about Jacks. They tend to lose their clothing. Unclothed seems to be their natural state. :acute:

[Rootesie]

There is something about Jacks. They tend to lose their clothing. Unclothed seems to be their natural state. :acute:

The coat seems to always find them, though. They're just naked underneath :wink:

[Sqyd]

You realize the coat is sentient, right? :grin:

[TheLizardQueen]

I hope you all realise how much i LOVE this thread :happy:

[chironsgirl]

I hope you realize how much I live on this thread! And the COAT! I keep flashing to my Dad's big black Navy coat with all the gold buttons and details.....I'm sure that cant be healthy.
And when you think about it, WE'RE ALL naked under our coats! :wink:
XOXOXO

[Sqyd]

I woke up this morning and thought: It would be interesting to write a piece of fanfic from the the point of view of The Coat. :grin:

[Rootesie]

I woke up this morning and thought: It would be interesting to write a piece of fanfic from the the point of view of The Coat. :grin:

Ooooh, you should do it! So many possibilities... :laugh:

BTW, have posted a gratuitous full frontal naked Jack here (http://torchwoodforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=12007&start=15) if anyone's interested! Didn't think I should put it in this thread, as I don't want to be spanked by the mods again.

[Sqyd]

I woke up this morning and thought: It would be interesting to write a piece of fanfic from the the point of view of The Coat. :grin:

Ooooh, you should do it! So many possibilities... :laugh:


I did it! Surprisingly (?) it turned out R rated. :blusher: I think. If it's fit for general consumption let me know. I didn't want to make a posting faux pas.
Here it is. (http://torchwoodforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=12641)

[chironsgirl]

I have to tell you , I like the coat story. Big fan of the coat!
XOXOXO

[TheLizardQueen]

Really, who ISN'T a biiiig fan of that coat??? It's fabulous! Jack isn't Jack without it!
:wink:

xxx

[spanieljack]

But you can't have jack without his wrist strap and there's only one of those.

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[chironsgirl]

But you can't have jack without his wrist strap and there's only one of those.

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I dont care if he's got his wrist thingy or not....a fancy wrist watch is just that, a fancy wrist watch. Jack is Jack , with or without gadgets. As much as I adore The Coat, I'd even take him without it. He is also delectable with or without suspenders. :crazy: Yup, I got it bad. :inlove:

[TheLizardQueen]

What if it was just Jack... with nothing BUT the coat...???

[Sqyd]

Btw, why is Jack wearing belt AND suspenders? Is he that afraid of his pants falling off? Is his manliness so overpowering that he needs all the extra bracing power just to keep his pants on? :hmm:

[chironsgirl]

What if it was just Jack... with nothing BUT the coat...???
:blusher: :inlove:

Oh, about the belt and suspenders thing: some guys just like the extra security........after all, Jack is Weevil wrestling alot, and anything can happen. So the belt helps his peace of mind.
XOXOXO

[Rootesie]

Btw, why is Jack wearing belt AND suspenders? Is he that afraid of his pants falling off? Is his manliness so overpowering that he needs all the extra bracing power just to keep his pants on? :hmm:

:laugh:

Maybe it's to have an extra layer to remove in games of strip poker, or because he loves the feel of them being pulled and pinged back against his skin :wink:

Then again, it could just be that he knows how sexy the braces look, especially when hanging down and framing his arse just so... (sorry, I'm on about bums again!)

[Kelspook]

If he was just wearing braces, where would he put his Webley holster? My bet is that he likes the look of the braces, and the belt is there for practicality... and they DO look good :D

As does that coat :blusher:

[TheLizardQueen]

Yeah it's all about fashion for most men these days, especially someone as vain as the Captain. But he's right - it looks grrrrreat!

[chironsgirl]

Now that I think of it, I also like that dark vest - watch chain thing he does sometimes, too. I think Kelspook is right, though. He needs a place to hang his Webley.
XOXOXO

[TheLizardQueen]

I've just had a thought. All three Jacks wearing nothing but coats and suspenders and little Ianto wearing nothing but his tie...

[chironsgirl]

I've just had a thought. All three Jacks wearing nothing but coats and suspenders and little Ianto wearing nothing but his tie...
Girl, you are so naughty! :crazy:
XOXOXO

[TheLizardQueen]

I guess I just can't help myself, not when it comes to those two boys! (or should that be four?)

[NayOhMe-Cooper]

I thought the same when i watched this how annoying when this happens and you can never know te answer :swoon:

But i must say loving the ideas with three jacks just in coats :omg:
Dont get me imagioning it lol!
N x

[chironsgirl]

I know how this thread started......as a bit odf a joke after COE. But Space Channel is doing a COE marathon and the only way I can get thru it is by drinking copious amounts of Ausralia white wine. The pain is coming. just now Gwen and Rhys are being undertakers to rescue Jack. Thank god for Austrlia, Thank goddess for Jack naked. Again, I cant believe they found an actress who could support a story line involving pouring concrete over JB's delectable nakedness. And, wow, I'm really drunk.
XOXOXO

[chironsgirl]

OKAY, I dont know if that's a body double or JB, but that's a NICE behind!
XOXOXO

[Kelspook]

It's JB... he has no problems with flashing his butt- hope you don't feel too crap today! LOL

[chironsgirl]

Retail sucks when you've got a full body hangover. Thanx Kelspook!
XOXOXO

[TheLizardQueen]

Of course it will be JB, that man is totally proud of himself and not at all shameful about his naked self! Now that's what i call confidence :lol2:

I feel like watching Utopia, just for that simple moment where Jack begins taking off his clothes before entering the Chamber...

Doctor: "Whoa, what you doing? I don't think the radiation effects clothes, just skin."
Jack: (In white t-shirt and suspenders) "Yeah? I look good though."

Yes Jack. Yes you do. :inlove:

Anyway, back on topic...

[IantoFOREVER]

I wondered that after seeing ep 2. I reckon that you need a few body parts to create another whole Jack, but the head is prob essential!!

But I like the idea that there could be another couple of Jacks on the loose... :happy:

The head essential? I don't think so.. I know this thread wandered happily off onto the topics of multiple naked Jacks, lol, but I read this topic a few days ago, it bugged me, and been thinking about it since. I reckon I have a workable theory- if you disagree, cool, just tell us why! :)


We know that Rose brought Jack back the first time. Thing is though, it wasn't Rose as such. She had the time vortex inhabiting her, and she instructed the vortex to bring him back. I know it's been said that Jack is now a fixed point in time and space... but I think that's scientifically inaccurate. A fixed point in time, yep. Space, nope, because if he was, every time he resurrected he'd find himself back in the location of the game station as that's where he was when he died. The reason he's a fixed point is because although Rose told the vortex to bring him back to life, she didn't tell it to stop doing it, so Jack keeps being reset to his personal point in time just prior to the dalek exterminating him, regardless of the time period he's currently residing in.

So my theory is that the vortex made him a fixed point in time, and by that it meant that the vortex simply "rewinds" him to his previous state every time he dies. As you can travel through space and time using the vortex, it would follow that it simply draws all the pieces back either physically if they're available or through time itself prior to the tissue's destruction.

Logically the vortex would start doing that from the highest concentration of parts- I don't think it would matter which parts at all. Like the biggest pieces act similar to the singularity at the centre of a black hole- the singularity has the highest density and gravitational field, so drags everything in the vicinity towards itself. The vortex isn't going to expend energy uselessly, so would start from the easiest point i.e. where there's more of him!

So that would preclude the possibility of many Jacks- the vortex is simply rewinding the original through time to a point before he got blown to bits!

This actually hatches a new interesting possibility- if Jack was to stop getting himself killed, would he age naturally? At least until he died of old age, then got reset again? Fic idea there for someone I think lol.

So, what do you lot think? Valid or nonsense?

Well, I actually had near enought the same theory but I kept on thinking that he would not feel for example bein stabbed he would feel the Dalek shooting him as that was when he is being ressurected as he is a fixed point in time. So that means when he was blew up as it were he wouldn't feel the explotion he would feel the dalek.

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[IantoFOREVER]

I wondered that after seeing ep 2. I reckon that you need a few body parts to create another whole Jack, but the head is prob essential!!

But I like the idea that there could be another couple of Jacks on the loose... :happy:

The head essential? I don't think so.. I know this thread wandered happily off onto the topics of multiple naked Jacks, lol, but I read this topic a few days ago, it bugged me, and been thinking about it since. I reckon I have a workable theory- if you disagree, cool, just tell us why! :)


We know that Rose brought Jack back the first time. Thing is though, it wasn't Rose as such. She had the time vortex inhabiting her, and she instructed the vortex to bring him back. I know it's been said that Jack is now a fixed point in time and space... but I think that's scientifically inaccurate. A fixed point in time, yep. Space, nope, because if he was, every time he resurrected he'd find himself back in the location of the game station as that's where he was when he died. The reason he's a fixed point is because although Rose told the vortex to bring him back to life, she didn't tell it to stop doing it, so Jack keeps being reset to his personal point in time just prior to the dalek exterminating him, regardless of the time period he's currently residing in.

So my theory is that the vortex made him a fixed point in time, and by that it meant that the vortex simply "rewinds" him to his previous state every time he dies. As you can travel through space and time using the vortex, it would follow that it simply draws all the pieces back either physically if they're available or through time itself prior to the tissue's destruction.

Logically the vortex would start doing that from the highest concentration of parts- I don't think it would matter which parts at all. Like the biggest pieces act similar to the singularity at the centre of a black hole- the singularity has the highest density and gravitational field, so drags everything in the vicinity towards itself. The vortex isn't going to expend energy uselessly, so would start from the easiest point i.e. where there's more of him!

So that would preclude the possibility of many Jacks- the vortex is simply rewinding the original through time to a point before he got blown to bits!

This actually hatches a new interesting possibility- if Jack was to stop getting himself killed, would he age naturally? At least until he died of old age, then got reset again? Fic idea there for someone I think lol.

So, what do you lot think? Valid or nonsense?

Well, I actually had near enought the same theory but I kept on thinking that he would not feel for example bein stabbed he would feel the Dalek shooting him as that was when he is being ressurected as he is a fixed point in time. So that means when he was blew up as it were he wouldn't feel the explotion he would feel the dalek.

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If that makes any sence at all

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[chironsgirl]

I miss this goofy thread! And I wonder what they will be doing to Jack in the new season; how many different ways will the writers come up with to give us three Jacks?
XOXOXO

[Purpledragon]

Three Jacks? There would be a threesome...DEFINITELY!

[chironsgirl]

A threesome would be the least of it! It would be Jack cubed! All those pheromones just blasting away, spreading out everywhere!
XOXOXO

[asinglenote]

and that's why it's called Miracle Day!! :D