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JohnB
12th July 2009, 02:19
Ok....here's my take on the whole thing. The following is entirely my opinion and I don’t intend to force it on others :smile:

[spoiler:2r5sjp3z]The last 2 days, I feel as if my heart has been torn to pieces. I found Ianto's death to much to take. I love Ianto and the enjoyment he brought to the show. COE was very disturbing, and emotionally raw.
I'm a die-hard Janto fan so this just killed me!!!! I've cried so many times, I've lost count. I've cried myself to sleep, you name it, and I've cried during it. I still break down here and there. :cryin:
Then, it sort of hit me.....this was always going to happen. When they finished filming last year, it was done. It was coming, we just didn't know. I find that a slight comfort, despite I don't understand why it had to happen at all.[/spoiler:2r5sjp3z]

For me, I'll buy the DVD, of course. But it will be a very, very, long time before I could watch it again. For now, the series ended with the radio plays from earlier this month, which are canon as they bridged the gap to Season 3.

I also did something to help the healing....well as least for me. I have a bookcase with Dr.Who and Torchwood items under a mantle. I went out and bought 3 pic frames. I took my 2009 Calendar, and framed the pic of Jack, Ianto, and the Calendar cover, and placed them on the mantle. A Display section if you will. To show I'm proud to be a fan.

For some reason, that gives me comfort. Sort of cementing their place in the collection of items I have, so to speak.

Obsessive?-----Maybe. Crazy?-----Could be. Odd?-----Who cares.

I've learned to never be ashamed how how I feel and these characters brought me a great deal of joy. I asked some friends if feeling things so deeply is a weakness. They say no…..it’s a strength. It means I’m human.
So if anyone else feels the same way….don’t you dare feel silly for how you feel!!!

[spoiler:2r5sjp3z]I feel the petitions for Ianto are not only good for the character but also to show Gareth how much he is loved and adored by his fans. I'm sure he needs that like every actor. He made Ianto endearing and I’m grateful to him for his role. :inlove: :clapper:[/spoiler:2r5sjp3z]

And most of all....I'm so grateful for all you on this board. Your posts have helped me see I'm not being silly in my grief. We are all mourning . Some may call us geeks, but what did John Barrowman say at a convention:----Geeks rule the world!! :friends:

I must be honest when I say, I can’t turn my back on Torchwood. If they do another series, I’m there.
I’ll support them as I have in the past. I personally feel I owe it to John, Eve, and Gareth.

I may wear my heart on my sleeve, but that’s me!

We have this wonderful board to help vent our feelings and keep each other up to date on what the future holds for the series. As I’ve said in another post…..Where Captain Jack goes….I’ll follow.

Thanks for reading, my fellow ‘Woodies”!

ElectroxGirl
12th July 2009, 02:27
I agree with you. The way we all reacted is a massive compliment to the cast and writers (even if some of us are extremely angry at one in particular). If it wasn't for their writing and acting we wouldn't be so upset. I will definitely be buying the DVD because this series has been absolutely amazing as a whole. And if there is a fourth series, I'll be watching. I can't just leave the show like I've heard a lot of people are doing. That's stupid. I'm a fan so I'll stay a fan.
Personally I've found that looking at pictures of the scenes and watching it over and over is helping it sink in and face what's happened.

And geeks rule! :big_grin:

SuperHolz_X
12th July 2009, 02:55
Want the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I'm a 'Gwack'er but heart, and a 'Gwack'er by nature, but I fell in love with 'Janto' as well, I know...shiver me timbers.

When that heartbreaking moment happened in CoE day 4, [spoiler:lvu3jw0l]that moment where you wanted to run and with an axe and murder the 456 for killing that beautiful man[/spoiler:lvu3jw0l], I think if you didn't love 'Janto' before, you would then.

The whole situation killed me, + that awefully sad moment where Jack held Gwen as they both cried because of Ianto, and she said, 'There's nothing we can do...'

I've never cried straight for a whole hour, over a television programme before...but jesus.[spoiler:lvu3jw0l]The moment they showed Ianto's death on 'previously on torchwood' 'til half way through BBCNEWS @ 10pm, I sobbed.[/spoiler:lvu3jw0l]

My top saddest moments from day5(and ofc i am going to mention 1 moment from day4).
- [spoiler:lvu3jw0l]Ianto's death. Obviously. Even though it wasn't day 5, it still was raw when I watched it.[/spoiler:lvu3jw0l]
- The Jack/Gwen emotional conversation at the end. Broke me little ol'heart.
- When Gwen said about the Doctor, how he looks at the world and must look away in shame.
- John Frobisher, his hole situation. [spoiler:lvu3jw0l]The prime-minister doomed him to die from the beginning.[/spoiler:lvu3jw0l]
- Rhys asking Gwen[spoiler:lvu3jw0l]if she meant about getting rid of the baby[/spoiler:lvu3jw0l], that little conversation was really, really upsetting.
- Jack saying something along the lines of 'Let Gwen go home. I can't look at her anymore.' after it shows her sitting against the wall crying.

I'm going to watch Torchwood series 4. Of course I am. I loved Torchwood for the whole feel of it, and whatever happens I'll probably watch it. Just like Doctor Who (although I couldn't tolerate Martha. Only in the episodes with John Simm *drools* and Capt Jack *drools*) I'm going to be a 'Woodie' 'til I become old a grey. ((;

hattie
12th July 2009, 18:29
geeks totally rule!!

This could be disagreed with by many people but here goes...

I watched Torchwood for pure escapism. i mean aliens falling through a rift isn't exactly true life. lol
But this week of episodes felt like the writers trying to get across their own political oppinions rather then about the fantasy of aliens. This wasn't escapism instead it was like watching party political broadcast about how the government has got it all wrong, again.

as for torchwood being a dangerous place to work for i get that i understand people die but i would say being the dr's assistant was just as dangerous yet how many have them have died under RTD??

I do hope they bring torchwood back but it won't be the Original Torchwood cardiff, it would be starting from scratch. then if they do bring it back i won't have the same level of love for it as before as get to into a character with torchwood and next episode they're gone.

Huggles to anyone feeling poopy

countessjones
12th July 2009, 18:39
Well said John, good on you for doing something that has cheered you up a little after such a heartbreaking event.
As you say "Who cares" if it helps you then thats good.
It's a nice tribute to our two wonderful actors/characters. :friends:

omarkent
12th July 2009, 19:15
Alot of people were[spoiler:66dmq6ha]upset by Ianto's death[/spoiler:66dmq6ha]but yo have to remember it isn't reaL its just a tv show

blaid drwg
12th July 2009, 19:25
Alot of people were [spoiler:1dwefvm1]upset by Ianto's death[/spoiler:1dwefvm1] but yo have to remember it isn't reaL its just a tv show
Of course but then again a character which you enjoy watching and makes you feel happy when that character[spoiler:1dwefvm1]"dies" it means you wont get to see them on a show again,[/spoiler:1dwefvm1] thats why people are upset.

Holly2009
12th July 2009, 19:27
Alot of people were upset by [spoiler:3cczymmw]Ianto's death but yo have to remember it isn't reaL its just a tv show[/spoiler:3cczymmw]

Your right, but for me, I don't see the point in watching a TV show if your not going to get involved. I for one, love all the fandom, speculation and shipping crazyness, its what makes the show worth it in my opinion.

Lucifus
13th July 2009, 01:40
I have to say i didn't like Ianto too much in any series but [spoiler:3o99zljk]even his death moved me even if it was a little anti-climatic.[/spoiler:3o99zljk] Its a shame that many of the characters were killed off as soon as they became more than two dimensional but then thats the way it works i suppose.

As far as emotions go though this series of torchwood brought out more mixs of emotions than any tv series has ever done. It raised real no-win questions and still managed to be made of pure win.

However this series did what i thought was impossible: Making Gwen likable. She actually rocked in this series.

Captain James Harper
13th July 2009, 02:25
Alot of people were [spoiler:wp7x641c]upset by Ianto's death but yo have to remember it isn't reaL its just a tv show[/spoiler:wp7x641c]

Your right, but for me, I don't see the point in watching a TV show if your not going to get involved. I for one, love all the fandom, speculation and shipping crazyness, its what makes the show worth it in my opinion.
Absolutely, but, there comes a point when a person's level of involvement or attachment to a show (or anything, really) becomes unhealthy. I think the people spewing their bile on James Moran's blog have proved that point only too well. To be honest, I hope the more spiteful of them are charged under the appropriate Acts. Maybe it'll make them think twice before posting unpleasant things from behind the anonymity of a screen...